Person:Surrender ho gaya , for HIM ?
Me:nahi hota na, jab ho jayega, tab no dikkat
Person:ha ha ha, great thoughts!!!!
Me:sabassi nahi answer do
Person:answer for?, soch rahi hoon
Person:yeh surrender ke jagah sacrifice hota to ??
surrender thoda negative vibes deta hai
Me:sacrifice is negative,sacrifice is a compromise,surrender is not
Person:u surrender when u r rwrong,u sacrifice when u want right
Me:disagree;take any relationship, BF and GF even , tumhara hi case le lo
continue karoon :) ?
Person:ya ya
boliye
Me:any BF and GF , the love that they feel for each other , isnt it born out of a very simple fact that they involuntarily let go of certain aspects
for eg, a normally agressive guy can be very gentle with his GF
Person:agreed
Me:coz, somehow, he does not why, he feels that correct he has not made the conscious decision of sacrificing it but because he loves her, anger somehow seems inappropriate .am I making any sense?
Person:yes
Me:jab log sacrifice karte hain , if that doesnt get converted to surrender, its short lived sacricifces are required sometimes
Person:so this is not surrender also i feel...... surrender is something done intentionaly when u realise u r wrong and u should give it up
Me:then what is it?
Person:shayad isse kuch aur bolna chahiye, aap sochiye
Me:what is surrender ?
Person:just a point of view
surrender is something done intentionally when u realise u r wrong and u should give it up,i feel
Me:surrender is just letting go,i define surrender as just letting go,letting go of control
Person:hmmm,in a sense i agree
Me:when u no longer consider urself to be the primary doer
when u love someone, u dont think why u love, what things are changing inside you
if u are nit-picking as in this is right , this is wrong, this is what I need to change the relationship becomes a drag, the problem is that we are always told that we need to have our own personality
Person:hmmm
Me:that this concept is in total contradiction to it ;in essence, its not
Person:but when u love someone u always wanna be the way that person would like
u to be
Me:who knows how he /she wants the other person to be agar saamne waale ki har baat manogi to he/she will be bored
Person:i mean u would do all that would make the pther person happy atleast to an extent
Me: agreed, to an extent yes and the point is ?
Person: it can be called surrender
Me: agar koi tumhare saamne apna ego khatm kar de w/o destroying his/her personality
how can u not love him/her?
Person:i agree,if a person can do this for u ,tumhe usse better koi nahi mil sakta
Monday, July 7, 2008
Surrender..Answers Please
Any kind of love has one thing at its core: Surrender. We can add adjectives to classify it like surrender of ego, surrender of mind etc, but they will serve no purpose. A love , whether purely physical, mental or spiritual has to have surrender. Is all love that we come across in our life just meant to teach us this very simple thing. Because to transcend the self-imposed barriers, love for HIM needs to be inculcated. And Love for Him also doesnt come w/o surrender.
When surrender happens, what changes? We change. And we have seen this at work. We see this at work in all our relationships, bar none. The love sprouts out of this surrender. How many of us will not fall for someone who is ready to surrender for us, who changes for us, who is ready to let go his/her normal mental entrapments, definitions of personality ?
Then why do we find it so difficult to do it for HIM. The answers I seek.
When surrender happens, what changes? We change. And we have seen this at work. We see this at work in all our relationships, bar none. The love sprouts out of this surrender. How many of us will not fall for someone who is ready to surrender for us, who changes for us, who is ready to let go his/her normal mental entrapments, definitions of personality ?
Then why do we find it so difficult to do it for HIM. The answers I seek.
ek naya sansaar banana hai
kshitiz ke paar jaana hai
ek naya sansaar banana hai
sankuchit si lagti hai duniya
seemaon ko nirarthak banana hai
sunte aaye aaj tak
ki sambhav nahi hai ye swapna
saare khyalo ko dur bhagana hai
ek naya sansaar banana hai
apni kayarta ko dur bhagana hai
mila ke haath,
is nabh ko bhi
dharti se milana hai
ek naya sansaar banana hai
us sansaar me koi dukhi na hoga
ye kah nahi sakte
par sabke paas dukh batane ka
sukh hoga
aisa ek sansaar banana hai
Ram rajya me rajya baad me
pahle apne Raam ko Lana hai
ek naya sansaar banana hai
kshitiz ke paar jaana hai
ek naya sansaar banana hai
ek naya sansaar banana hai
sankuchit si lagti hai duniya
seemaon ko nirarthak banana hai
sunte aaye aaj tak
ki sambhav nahi hai ye swapna
saare khyalo ko dur bhagana hai
ek naya sansaar banana hai
apni kayarta ko dur bhagana hai
mila ke haath,
is nabh ko bhi
dharti se milana hai
ek naya sansaar banana hai
us sansaar me koi dukhi na hoga
ye kah nahi sakte
par sabke paas dukh batane ka
sukh hoga
aisa ek sansaar banana hai
Ram rajya me rajya baad me
pahle apne Raam ko Lana hai
ek naya sansaar banana hai
kshitiz ke paar jaana hai
ek naya sansaar banana hai
Wednesday, July 2, 2008
Bakwaas
har ehsaas se acha hota hai bakwaas
doston ko laata ye kitna paas
na ho jeevan me
to jeevan ho jaye bhari
deta hai ye jeevan ko nayi saas
dosti ki shuruat hai ye
shuru ka hast-milaap hai ye
paas jo laye wo aujar hai ye
aur ruthe doston ko jo hasaye
wo kalalar hai ye
har ehsaaas
kaha ek kawi ne kal
jo na ho bakwaas
to kaise karate hum shrota ko ehsaas
ki kya kya sunte ho aap
aur jo aap sunte hi ho itna anargal
to le jhelo ek kawita jo humne likhi kal
aur wo shuru ho gaya
har ehsaas..
aap bhi meri baat maano
kamar kas ke taano
jo koi mile
usko suna do
bas rakhna itna khyal
uske baad mat dikhna
uske aaspaas
doston ko laata ye kitna paas
na ho jeevan me
to jeevan ho jaye bhari
deta hai ye jeevan ko nayi saas
dosti ki shuruat hai ye
shuru ka hast-milaap hai ye
paas jo laye wo aujar hai ye
aur ruthe doston ko jo hasaye
wo kalalar hai ye
har ehsaaas
kaha ek kawi ne kal
jo na ho bakwaas
to kaise karate hum shrota ko ehsaas
ki kya kya sunte ho aap
aur jo aap sunte hi ho itna anargal
to le jhelo ek kawita jo humne likhi kal
aur wo shuru ho gaya
har ehsaas..
aap bhi meri baat maano
kamar kas ke taano
jo koi mile
usko suna do
bas rakhna itna khyal
uske baad mat dikhna
uske aaspaas
kya kare man
kya kare man
jab koi itna pyara lagne lage
ki uski hansi se dhup cheepne lage
khyal ban saath chalti rahe
parchai me wo dikhti rahe
man bahke to bahakne se kaise roke
armaan jage to jagne se kaise roke
kya kare man
....
tanhai ho ya juhum
har waqt khyalo me bas wo
har khyal jab pyara lage
ye saath jab sabse nyara lage
kya kare man
....
subah uskakhyal uthaye
raat ko uski garmi sulaye
din me bhi kitna tadpaye
par kyun is bhav ko hum hataye
kya kare man
....
uski mushkan se
jeevan ka har pal sarthak lage
bina uski awaz ke
har din thoda bhari lage
kya kare man
....
jab koi itna pyara lagne lage
ki uski hansi se dhup cheepne lage
khyal ban saath chalti rahe
parchai me wo dikhti rahe
man bahke to bahakne se kaise roke
armaan jage to jagne se kaise roke
kya kare man
....
tanhai ho ya juhum
har waqt khyalo me bas wo
har khyal jab pyara lage
ye saath jab sabse nyara lage
kya kare man
....
subah uskakhyal uthaye
raat ko uski garmi sulaye
din me bhi kitna tadpaye
par kyun is bhav ko hum hataye
kya kare man
....
uski mushkan se
jeevan ka har pal sarthak lage
bina uski awaz ke
har din thoda bhari lage
kya kare man
....
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